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Contents 1 About including Gods in the Family Tree 2 Security Model? 3 Hello 4 Merging Debate 5 birth and date mark 5.1 private option 6 Windsor 7 Vanderbilt clan 8 XML Export Functionality 9 Growing the Tree 10 New Engine 10.1 LDS Sealed to Spouse Regression 11 Rollback and Undelete disabled 12 GEDCom uploader 13 Rootsweb.com - Mailing list - English only 14 Delete 15 Clan Name/Surname Issues 16 Preexisting French King Records overwritten by Newer Portuguese variants? 17 update on export functionality 18 George Formby,Ukelele-Player,and English Movie Actor during 2nd World War

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About including Gods in the Family Tree

Please Don't! I understand that legendary and mythical kings may appear in lineages... that is fine as long as we realize they were once ordinary or extraordinary men and women and there is some form of documentation to substantiate the claim. However there are many times when I find a God listed instead of the ancestor (or lineage) who properly belongs there. Athough a Gods name can give us clues where to look to find the ancestor we are searching for, putting in the ultimate creator in that spot caps off the lineage and makes us think we have reached our ultimate end point for that lineage. Such a practice is unfair to the actual living human being who should be represented in that spot. I will unlink Gods if I find them. Also...for fundamentalists among us that believe the world is only 6000 years old...get a clue! Some DFA lineages go back to 3000 and 4000 bc. Please don't put God in there if he doesnt belong (I don't care what you call him/her) or else bewilling to accept the notion that God wasn't actually a god but an ordinary being who may or may not be correctly identified and may end up being deleted. If we want to document Pantheons let's have Baya create a separate database to hold that data and not mix it in with our family trees. Almoustine 21:32, 19 May 2008 (EEST)

You should move this discussion to the main page´s discussion or to the help page, because it's a very important topic to resolve in the Rodovid´s community. regards--R0MAN0 21:47, 19 May 2008 (EEST)

Thanks Romano - I will Almoustine 21:49, 19 May 2008 (EEST)

Security Model?

What about a security model for living persons? Some people would not want birthdate, birthplace, etc. disclosed. Perhaps a clan-password? This site looks great for sharing and collaborating on family trees and family history, but a security model is lacking. For example: [1]

• Currently Rodovid uses wiki software. Main feature of wiki is a open free joint work for one goal. There are exists discussion about privacy policy. But,

1. Who will defined peoples from same clan?
2. Why anybody can't say that he is from your clan?
3. and MAIN thing. What information can be found by deliberate criminal at Rodovid and can't be found in any other places?

1. Other side, if you want hide you roots, you must create your tree under bed at night into black box :) But not on the internet, and even using computer that have access to the internet.

--Baya 12:05, 2 October 2006 (EEST)

Hello

Hello, I am going to try to improve the Help here so as to make it easier to use the website and to be more helpful. This could be a fairly successful website, but it is sort of small and hard to use. It is also a little unclear about what it is all about.

Please! someone add more comments, make this into an actual talk page..

• Hello, project is under active development. Turn on watching on engine:Rd Engine:News --Baya 09:42, 3 March 2006 (EET)

• Yes, your right it is small at the moment. Its great that you want to join in and improving the help will be most apreciated.--Bjwebb 16:50, 3 March 2006 (EET)

• I have a few suggestions on my talk page --Mayhew18 4:16 29 May 2006 (EST)

Merging Debate

You can read discussion about merging WikiTree, WeRelate & Rodovid here --Baya 12:35, 3 July 2007 (EEST)

birth and date mark

I didn't know where to ask about this... well, by the date of the death there is a cross. well, what about jewish and islamic people? Ek7 01:21, 8 July 2006 (EEST)

When project will be started on arabic there could be a different symbol because of major religion.--71.111.55.24 22:37, 24 August 2006 (EEST)

• currently birth and death dates marked by leeters b. and d. corespondanly. These marks can be set in every localisation by localisation community into system messages MediaWiki:Rd_birthdatemark and MediaWiki:Rd_deathdatemark by any localisation sysop. --Baya 12:13, 2 October 2006 (EEST)

private option

Is there any possibility of adding another option to birthdate to the others (at about, estimated) with the option of "Private"? I know for those that are currently alive, there is the danger of identity theft, and so that would be a welcomed option. --Hipsterdoofus 23:27, 4 January 2007 (EET)

There are exists global discussion for this topic --Baya 17:45, 5 January 2007 (EET)

Windsor

Hi,

I am surprised that the tree of the Windsor is not available here. I would like to link it with the tree of the French kings. Yann 01:38, 29 July 2006 (EEST)

You can help start it!--Hailey C. Shannon 03:10, 29 July 2006 (EEST)

Well, since all data is already in the database on engine.rodovid.org, there is no point to do it by hand again. Yann 16:58, 29 July 2006 (EEST)

This data I import as example from royal.ged file. I can not guarantee clearing of this file. --Baya 21:44, 29 July 2006 (EEST)

I am not sure I understood what you mean. Do you mean that you can't guarantee that the data is exact? That doesn't seem a problem, as it's much easier and faster to verify the data once it's imported than to copy it manually. Yann 00:47, 30 July 2006 (EEST)

William Arthur Philip Louis Mountbatten-Windsor (Mountbatten-Windsor, b. 21 June 1982) --Baya 21:30, 1 August 2006 (EEST)

This brings up an interesting question: how to merge/link two trees ? If one can enter the Windsor tree as a GEDCOM file, how do you connect it to a tree already on the site such as that of the French kings that already has many of the same names? This is likely to be an important feature as the site grows and people discover that one of their ancestors is featured and they want to add their own tree and connect it. If this issue can be resolved (or if there already is a way to do this), a good way to grow the site would be to contact people with personal sites (or even from commercial sites) whose trees overlap with yours (or with any Rodovid tree) and ask them to upload their file and link it. Any thoughts ?

• Important thing is "to NOT add person that already in database", during gedcom import similar search procedure occur and user can assign gedcom record to existing record instead adding similar to db. Full tree of Elizabet merged from 9 or more trees. Also at any moment any user can add parent or children to any person at any tree. You can see here many europian houses --Baya 18:53, 18 January 2007 (EET)

Vanderbilt clan

I just finished the essentials on a tree of the Vanderbilt clan, from Cornelius the First right down to TV's Anderson Cooper, if I missed anymone feel free to add.--Hailey C. Shannon 01:51, 6 September 2006 (EEST)

XML Export Functionality

Is there any kind of interface to access clan-data on rodovid? if not, this should be an important to-do, because without, information on clans collected on rodvoid is useless for other applications. IMHO to guarantee lasting success of rodovid.org, an open design model is necessary. Best would be an interface to query&edit the trees based on web-service standards. This allows others to develop applications for advanced visualisation, search-improvement or even automatic data integration (only GEDCOM-support is not enough). Dobinator 16:30, 24 November 2006 (EET)

• I work for possibility for registered users access to raw data (pure xml) --Baya 18:00, 24 November 2006 (EET)

Any further word on this functionality? As much as I hope Rodovid continues to take off and is around for a long time, after entering hours of information, it would be nice to be able to export it to save it in case something were to happen! --Hipsterdoofus 06:46, 4 January 2007 (EET)

• I hope that I finish new edit possibilities at the end of this January. Registered users can select edit way from genealogical form, pure xml and pure gedcom. --Baya 17:49, 5 January 2007 (EET)

Growing the Tree

This site needs to reach a critical size to really get going, i.e. to be perceived as a viable resource for searching ancestry in competition with commercial databases. Here is an idea: looking for personal homepages of people displaying their own family tree and e-mailing the owners of those pages asking them if they are interested in uploading their page on Rodovid, or in providing a Gedcom file to be uploaded. There are sites out there with tens of thousands of names and these sites were put up by people who want to have their trees available on-line. If 100 of us each contact 10 sites that each have 10000 names, with a 10% response there could be a million people uploaded relatively quickly. A good place to start would be the list of personal sites on Cyndi's list: http://www.cyndislist.com/personal.htm. Any interest ? CTfrog 20:20, 18 January 2007 (EET)

Frequent visitors to Rodovid have noticed that it is now changing for better at a stable speed. New design is being prepared, help messages are being improved, the family tree engine is soon to get some really cool functionality. However, this website is still in beta. That is the immediate goal is not to get as many records as possible but to improve the functionality of the website first. --Stanley 21:21, 18 January 2007 (EET)

• In any case you can help a project, if you contact to site owners --Baya 21:36, 18 January 2007 (EET)

New Engine

LDS Sealed to Spouse Regression

The SLGS attribute should be attached to a family unit in the same way a marriage is. This had been fixed in the previous engine. The attribute is basically a church marriage. Please remove SLGS from the individual event attributes and add it to the family event attributes. I'm not too worried about you fixing the data in the database. If you just fix it in the engine, I will clean up my data by deleting individual SLGS events and adding them to families. You can read more about this issue on my talk page. --Alexeagar 04:43, 24 June 2007 (EEST)

• Moved --Baya 22:48, 25 June 2007 (EEST)

Rollback and Undelete disabled

Sysops should be aware that bugs in rollback and undelete [2] (Bugzilla account required) have caused problems and so both are disabled until the bugs can be fixed.Wikiacc (talk) 06:56, 22 June 2007 (EEST)

GEDCom uploader

What happened to the GEDCOM uploader?--Hailey C. Shannon 04:18, 29 June 2007 (EEST)

• Special:GedcomParser --Baya 01:15, 30 June 2007 (EEST)

Rootsweb.com - Mailing list - English only

I created the above mailing list on Rootsweb for the discussion of wiki genealogy pages and the value of wiki genealogy pages. I invite the administrator of this site to join and any other interested parties.

To subscribe follow the links below:

WIKI-GENPAGES-L, send mail to WIKI-GENPAGES-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join WIKI-GENPAGES-D, do the same thing with WIKI-GENPAGES-D-request@rootsweb.com.

Best Regards, --Sidetracked Researcher 04:11, 3 July 2007 (EEST)

Delete

Hello, could you please delete all the pages I have created? I have privacy issues. Thank you. Andrevan 12:14, 26 July 2007 (EEST)

You can delete records that you added yourself. If a record was in the meantime edited by someone else as well, add that record to the Category:Items to delete. Just insert the [[Category:Items to delete]] in the Notes section. --Stanley 12:23, 26 July 2007 (EEST)

Clan Name/Surname Issues

I have an issue with the way that some lineages are being combined. Rather than take the time to designate correct clan/tribal names with surnames or heraldic designations, we are rolling a wide range of disparate lineages up into a combined lineage under a country designation.

The problem is that the overarching bundling of all these disparate surnames are masking some very important lineage inheritance patterns that are worth preserving for Genealogical reasons and for Historical reasons as well.

For example both Plantagenet and Norman are being rolled in with Saxon and Scot under the designation England. This is grossly inaccurate and causing huge lists of names that are increasingly difficult to search. The harder the search the more lazy people become. They give up quicker and create or leave a duplicate individual rather than link the lineage properly. Not to mention that for example to Plantagenet stems from an entirely different ethnic stem than the Normans, Scots and Saxons. The lineages of the wives are masked by the association with their husband's lineage or worse with the lineage designation of "England". This is entirely incorrect as it does not allow for differentiation between the subgroups that comprise the English nation at the time and give a false impression that England consists of a single overarching family that is horribly inbred.

I vote we shed the tendency to roll things up into a nationalist schema as it leads to the same crazy genealogical mishmash that exists on other known genealogy sites and is really nothing more than a quick fix. It is better for all that if a lineage (Tribal Clan or Herald) cannot be determined with a fair degree of accuracy it should be listed as "Unknown" in order to allow someone who can identify the lineage to make the designation.

Almoustine 06:38, 12 February 2008 (EET)

This was inherited from the scheme used in many of the GEDCOM files imported into the site; it's not a policy at all, and I don't think that anybody actually advocates it. If you'd like to help out correcting this problem, please do so. --Wikiacc (talk) 01:47, 7 April 2008 (EEST)

I am currently working on getting my mother's lineage into the tree which will address some of these issues as she is part of the English Royalty tree. After that I hope to relax and perhaps add to the Help files by creating a look up chart that shows the clan names across the various languages so that we can have a look up reference guide for "surnames and clan designations" and perhaps get some standardization going. Almoustine 17:30, 25 May 2008 (EEST)

Preexisting French King Records overwritten by Newer Portuguese variants?

I have a problem with generations and generations on the Frankish kings having dissappeared and ID number in the 50000 range being overwritten by newer records from the Italian and Portuguese Database. Why was this done? (We have lost generations of valuable relationships which are now obscured by these newer records). Almoustine 01:55, 9 June 2008 (EEST)

Could you please cite some records?

OK so yesterday I did a whole lot of sleuthing to find out what happened and why I could not find the records that I had input or updated prior with Engish names...the records were still there but no longer linked in to the English database. I had to pull in the English records again from other databases by linking them to known persons. It looks like users have been unaware of how to mark records for duplication handling and have just been rebuilding the lineage based on their assessment of what is the most correct. Unfortunately, as you pointed out to me earlier. We need to synchronize the records, mark the NEWEST one as a duplicate, THEN allow the duplicates to remain in the tree until they can be removed.

I pulled in some records again by importing all the various records for Menia (?, b. about 465), Bisinus ? (of Thuringia, de Bassinga, Bassinga) (Thuringia, b. about 440 d. about 510), and Théodebert 1 d'Austrasie (Merovingian, b. between 495 and 500 d. between 547 and 548). By checking the following person Person:105825 You will be able to see a tree with some badly needed duplication removal efforts. My preference is that I mark and you remove...Is that OK? Almoustine 18:23, 9 June 2008 (EEST)

update on export functionality

Is there a plan for making it possible to look at a specific subtree, perhaps give that view a name, and export it or watch all of its pages at once/ Sj 07:26, 10 October 2009 (EEST)

George Formby,Ukelele-Player,and English Movie Actor during 2nd World War

Once I meet Mr.George Formby,or was it Sire George Formby? It was in North Norway West Coast,and I remember his teeth, and that he was a Nice Old Man,I even remember his Breath,as he talked to me.He looked so carefully,at my hands,and teeth. But I was only 5 years old att that moment in Summer 1961. "Dad" Helge Kallmyr had a Brand New Volkswagen,Black 1960. He bought it for approx.5.500 Swedish Kroner, a big sum of Money,back in 1961.And Sire George Formby came in an 1938 Old Fiat Durant?,Light Brown,Beige,with double rear window? Or was it an old Bentley...?The Colour was Light Brown.. I also met Miss Cathrine Dagmar Lindblom,and her Mother,and "Father",and one of her Brothers. Her Brother pushed me away from her,as My "Father Helge" Lured me to think that she was My sister,because I ran to her and asked her: "are You My Sister??",and she answered:Yes...and smiled,as she looked down,with her face,and lifted her eyes in a special shy way.Then her brother quickly came,he was somewhat taller than me,and 6-8 years old,and he said to me "She is My Sister,NOT your Sister"-and to his sister he said "why did you say that this boy is your brother?? I´m your brother" And then he tried to go and push me on my bottom,and succeded. My Mother was very distressed about why Helge lured me to believe,that this was a biological sister to me.As I meet her in 2005,as we travelled to art forth,Skelleftehamn,Vintergatan 56 and My adress Norra Hamngatan 11B,in Uddevalla,we talked about her Mother living at Cathrines Birth Town,some West/South 450km in country,closer to the Norwegian Border,the trail that was used by "UX"-Norwegian Resistance,during Second Worl War.Sveg was and is a Small Town. I had a Teacher,Gunnar Ekberg,at Bergs Skola,in Bohuslaen Sweden,and he had the same Ears as Cathrine Dagmar Lindblom. They also got the same Eyes,but not the same Nose. They also share a peculiar difference in Hair Thickness. On their Right side of the Hair,both had Double Feathures of Hair,thus the Left side was Thick enough,more than most people.They also shared the same Natural BlondBrown haircolour. As in 2004 at 26th December,my Mother past away,due to pain and disaster,after beeing poisioned by Doctors Medicin Ordination of 9 Betapred/Cortisone 0.5mg x 9 times a day in two years, she got "Cushings Syndrome",much worse than by NATURAL CAUSES. The skeleton was weakened,tooth loose,hair fall of,and skin fell of in big chunks revealing flesh and blood,at surfaces larger than a deck of card,was exposed.She also got a large amount of Water in Abdomen,and Lungs,because of eight time to hush radiation,in the beginning of the "Lethal Treatment",done by several Doctors.They said,Oliver Rinnan(Relatives in Uddevalla) that my mother shall suffer "Medicine Against Sicknesses,she Never" "Had"-and Die from it,BEFORE this treatment began,in 2002. They,planned it,because,My Mother "Knew to Much" about Relatives of Dr.Lars Magnus Liechtenstein(Wernher von Brauns son, with Margareta Mogensen-Liechtenstein-Jacobsson) and Thore "Tirpiz" Solum(Killer-Whale-Gynekologist/Uddevalla) son of Matros Karl-Heinz Loshe,on TIRPIZ at Kaafjord 1942-1943. and Hans Herman Gottlieb Wagner,"Killer"-Dentist at Kungsgatan 13 before 2009.He stopped his practice.Born 1928 in Germany. He got two or three sisters and one older brother(biological) Children of Ernst Otto Rehm,one of Adolf A.Hitlers "Dewils". So when My Grandfather on Mothers side was "KRIGS-SEGLARE",he was born at STALE-Munkedal-Bohuslaen-Sweden,by Tekla Karlsdotter, she was a Maiden at Gustafsbergs Bad Hotell (Bad= Swimming), as she got a Little Doozy by Carlshamns Flagg Punsch,given her by Prince Eugen,and got this Pregnancy,resulting in Tage Ivan, born 1913 at Stale.And lather moved to LENAS HOLME-placed at Oerekils-Aelven outlet into Munkedals Harbour.Anyway he saw an UFO in 1923-1926,after tending a BIG FUNERAL,with every body invited from all around in Munkedal,and Dingle,and Lysekil,there where many pictures taken,black/white-of coarse,in 1922,something,and after the Family returned to their House on(LEENAS HOLME/Island) this Island,as they passed the river tricking their ores. One of his Aunts got Blind for several weeks,and infected eyes, after been Staring into the Light,she tought was GOOD o Mighty. She got extremely Religios after that event,thus she was before. Tage hidden his face down at the bottom at the boat...with his jacket over his head,swearing and hystericall frightened. That must have been a special sight.His Aunt Praizing the Lord with Buckled Hands,and Tage Ivan shakening of Fright,swearing for all that he was worth.And The Others just covered their faces listening to this Cackafoni of Different Opinions in the Cold Winter Night.There where no lights except from Kerosene-Lamps, to guide them across,as the Fog often came at Night. Not this Night. My BIOLOGICAL Father was not HELGE,and Mrs.Katie Couric,said so already in 1992,in Fredrikshavn,where she was with her Mother Ethel at a Liqour Store,I imidiately visited as I got ashore, from Stena Line Ferry(from Gothenburg-Sweden) I was told I shall hurry,because they travelled so far,and it woukd be a Pitty if I missed them.So I said Hello to Mrs.Katie Couric in 1992 in the Flesh/Clothes on,and her Mother Ethel Kennedy to,they are NICE people,and Mrs.Katie got "Skin on Her Noose"-as they say in Sweden..she´s a TUFF Lady.Her Father was assasined by two men in 5th June 1968 at AMBASSADOR HOTEL-Los Angeles.One came up-front,fired three shots against Body,at Middle Shirt/front side,and his name was Siirhaan-Siirhaan.These thre bullits was not LETHAL. But the shot fired upwards in the Back of The Neck,fired By the GRANDSON of Emperor Hirohito(kind of Black Pearl Harbour)-attack. As His/Kegoes Grandmother on Fathers side was named Cayo"Black Pearl" Hatta,and was from Kobe-Japan.His Father/Kegoes Father-was Herman "Luftwaffles" Wilhelm Goering an AUSTRIAN FLYER,and Mother, Mrs.Gaby Stenberg-Koch,known to Nils Poppe(Joensson),and Gunnar Bjoernstrand,and Gus Dahlstroem(also actors). In Early 1962-63,Tage Ivan had Shheps and Goats at Leenas Holme. My BIOLOGICAL FATHER was/is,My "Fathers Brother½". Because when My Mother Inger discovered,that "Helge Kallmyr",not made her Pregnant,but went to his Diseast Brothers Widow,Gunvor who was once married to Tryggve Kallmyr,Inger Maria Johanna Kallmyr was shivering with cry,and Oscar Angel comforted her. As she was left for this way in Norway,Eide,Lyngstad,so soon after a long Journey from Munkedal,she was gratefully caring for Oscar Angel. And Oscar Angel was the son of Olga Linset,and George Formby. Goerge Formby travelled to Norway in disguize,helping the UX-Norways Secret Resistance.And Helge/Oscars Sister,was Married to Leiv Langset,who was Police Chief in Molde,during 2nd World War.Helped to locate the whereabouts of Battleship"DewilsNest"- TIRPIZ in Kaafjord,so the allied could send Minisubmarines,to destroy it in 1943 September.Several where casualties,but three got their Sub-Charges in the vicinity of Tirpiz,and blow it several meters straight up in the sky,with NH4NO3+Dieseloil+Magnesium/aluminium- -grain-Bomb.Two Crews was Captured from Tirpiz Seamen.... TIRPIZ bombed at Small Norwegian Villages,thought to contain Norwegian Resistance Families.If one was caught,the whole family was assasinated. In 1963 at Dallas,Elm Street,on 22nd November,Valter Evert Wilhelm Kegoe shoot John Fitzgerald Kennedy in the Neck,with a Rifle minutes before assembled by George W.Bush(in his younger days,a rabiat-patriot,as well as General Pattons relative,his friend). At the Lawn of Elm Steet,in front of the Picket Fence,where Kegoe stuck his Gun in beetween,from his position,on the reae end of that red Dodge Truck,Mr.Jack Ruby,parked close to the Fence,and Flanked by Police Officer Tippith(the Older),so nobody could see the Barrel of This Shotgun(Special for Mercury-Froozen-Bullits) Them called "Magic Bullits",as they slashed a mans head if hit only near by. All the Lincoln was covered with Mercury Pearls,therefore it was Changed to another Lincoln.And therefore the analysis of BULLIT-HOLES in Seats NOT interact with the actual event shooting.They where made after the assasine,on a Change Car.There was a Canvas Sheet covering up the Walther Kegoe shooting cover. And Valter Kegoes Mother Shouted loudly,as Firsth shot hit the rear neck of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy QUOTE: "Bravissimo-Mein Kaiser Soeze",and this LADY IN RED-was smiling... This Made Mrs.Mercedes,whom also,is seen on JFK-Zapruder Movie, Noughtious,and felt sickened of this Lady in Red,announcement,and as she had a Picture taken of the Smooking Barrels,and Sgt.Tippith(Kneehigh) Barrels in Position,beetween Picket Fence,under the Sycamore Threa. The Secret Service Men she contacted,said to her,Shut Up if You Care for Your Life,about what you saw out there....so there was an Conspiray. Its all about the Vietnam War,Industries Making Money out of War,and that the Coffins with Casualties from Vietnam always never was investigated for Content.Some of the Coffins where NO bodies,Just High Concentrated Narcotics,from Kambodja and Vietnam.This allowes corruption in the Airforce, Policeforces of New Jersey,and Edison County,because their Austrian/German Togetherness,as well as the Italians.Some of the coffins where body on top and Flight took them to airports,where the Drugs could be DRAINED out of the Casualties bodies. Jimmy Hoffa where made DRUG-discoveries,transport and the Maffia/Nazis/K.K.K.-Valter Kegoe,made him into DOG/CAT-FOOD. Therefore he could/can not be found. He got CANNED. You could say. And therefore he was "King of The Road"-because the Dawgs do their thing in the Road.Not in the Toilet,as Humans. The UFOs-Discovered and Captured,in New Mecixo,was originally placed at AREA 51 Roswell Airforce Base. But Now all 24,are placed at other locations. Several at USS Nimitz-Air-Combat Ships,that hold,one or two each. Rebuilt compartement, as they are very big.Seen at 2007 in 26th April,in front of a Leaking BERLUS-CON-Y-Nuclear Plant at a River in Italy.On http://www.YouTube.com There You also can search for "George Formby",and "JFK",and Martin Luther King who was shoot by a Swedish Police Officer,dressed"DEWIL IN DISGUISE"-as Elvis Presley sang about the Son of Hermann W.Goering,as an AMERICAN PATROL MOTORCYKLE OFFICER-shooting Doctor Reverand Martin Luther King,standing on the Second Floor open Balcony,from his Hiding place in the Bushes in front of Lorraine Motel.Some indication a second BACK-UP shooter,stood in a Bathroom inside the Bath-Tub,with scraping emaljy of the Bathtub bottom with stone in the Military Boots,that was George W.Bush.But Valter Kegoe was the Shooter who actually assasinated Martin. The Motorcykle Police(as in TERMINATOR 2) With Arnold Schwarzenegger. Arnold apear in an Elvis Presley Movie. Only 15 years old,already a strong Build Person,son of Stanley Laurell. The Movie is "GIRL HAPPY". Valter Kegoe also apear in a Elvis Presley-Movie as one with a "Rubber-Necking" behaviour,when the Blond Bomb-Shell Woman in her Baby Blue dress toss herself in Elvis Arms after his Firsth singing- -performance,in the United Artist movie "TICKLE ME"-whitch also shows Valter Kegoes way of Scaring People with Mask,and Hide-Outs... The UFOs are steered by MIND-transfering properties,therefore, not just recently,24 years ago,made possible to adjust to US-Navy...and Sub-Marine Crew.UFO in Italy,by Professor Strambambolo is American Piloted. A Special Breed of Humans,secretly developed by N.S.A. A Blend of Schafflongkerraz Creatures,and Humans. That is what Kegö is,half Schafflongkerraz Creature,and Half Human,therefore he could make all these Killings without Hesitating.Therefore his HEAD is that Much Bigger than his Face. The Nose and Eyes,and Mouth,placed Downwards in his Face. This Might had come as Early as with his Mother,the Daughter of the Pearldiveress "Black Pearl" who was,at that time,very BIG ,184cm,NOT usual for Japaneese. But she during her diving,might have been infected with the Schafflongkerraz Tics,or Moluscles inhabitant??? And at LENAS HOLME,where he prooven his total reluctance for Animals and Pain, he and Police Inspector Mats Siljehoeg,and Police Officer Bo A.Hallqvist,and a 11-12 year old Boy,who grew up with his Aunt in Munkedal,as his father could not Keep him(Sven). Haakan Kennet Karlsson(541226-xxxx?),Known as The Boogie-Man, or "Boogie-Woogie"-Dragspelare(rycking to much in the Baelg). His behaviour "Covered" up in Policereports By Friends of Valter Kegoe-Nazi-Yakuza-Maffia.They "change" Journals and Reports,to Cover up for this Ultimate Brainwashed Killer,for him to Create uncertainty amongst people who got Creatures/animals on their Farm,or in their homes. He also killes Daughters or Boys to "People who Knows to Much". And he got free Horse-Pottassium-Killing Liquid,from some Veterinarie in Western Sweden,who also provide him with "Targets"-and Prepare them Mentally to be Unsuspicious Victims.By the Couplings to MC-gangs,and Brotherships as Brothership Roegle in Aengelholm. Football-Huligaangs,you might call them. Anyway