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[edit] Last names

Hi Retang, You seem very qualify in Indonesian family tree, it is great !
But I've got a question: You look to have a kind of structure in your family name (like "Hamengku Buwono VI / Hamengku Buwono VII") and personnal genealogy coding (like "[Gp.Hb.7.13.1] [Hb.6.13.7]" or "6.2.1.2.1."), Could you explain us how to understand this structure ? and maybe wright an small article on it ? --Charles 16:34, 14 August 2015 (EEST)

Hi Charles, it was a royal family structure and it's heritage. Javanese culture took their ancestor lineage from both their mother and father family line. The family name Hamengku Buwono VI for example, was a family patron or lineage. Those who had a patron, use to had a annualy family gathering.

While the genealogy coding, actually it was my design token from it's original coding. The original coding from the Yogyakarta royal family for example was p.VI.1 means the first(1) son/daughter (p) from the Hamengku Buwono VI (VI). When I'm using rodovid, that code must change because there are lots of p(son) from lots of king/sultan/sunan VI. such as Sunan Mangkunegara VI, Pakualam VI, etc. So I have to replace the code p with each king's code. Hb for Hamengku Buwono, Pb for Pakubuwono, Mn for Mangkunegara, Pa for Pakualam. These are the 4 kingdoms in Central Java or the Mataram Islam kingdoms after Panembahan Senopati (the first mataram Kingdom).

Now the code Gp and Ga. "G" means wife in english. while "p" means queen or equal to queen, and "a" means formal concubine or mistress. Only the son birth from Gp can become the next king. Usually the first son. Gp is Garwa Padmi, and GA is Garwa Ampeyan. The young son from GP will had a title Gusti Raden Mas (GRM) while the young son from GA will had a title Bendoro Raden Mas (BRM). Both title were given to the king's son, but they had a different royal status. When they become adult, the could use the title Gusti Pangeran and just Pangeran (= prince). While the person who had the title Gusti Bendoro Pangeran Haryo (GBPH), could had a chance to become the next king. Below them was Bendoro Pangeran Haryo (BPH).

Then the numbers. Example [Hb.6.13.7] means the 7th son/daughter or descent from the 13th son/daughter/descent from Hamengku Buwono VI. So this person [Hb.6.13.7] was the grand son/daughter from Hamengku Buwono VI. the number following after that means the grandgrand son, grandgrandgrand son etc. And the number 1,2... means descent number 1,2.... from....

I hope you'll understand my little explanation about this.

[edit] Sources

Hi Retang,

I am currently working on my girlfriend's family tree. She is Javanese and of noble descent (a lot of Raden in her ancestry). I have obtained an old family tree from her, which does not 100% fit your family tree of Joko Sangkrib (Arung Binang I.). I would like to know what your sources are because I tend to believe your family tree more than the old one found in her house. You can find the family tree that I've got here, so you can check it, too. Thanks in advance!

Boleh jawab dalam bahasa Indonesia juga. :-)

Terima kasih jawabannya di halaman saya, Mas. Saya sudah cek link yang mas kirim, namun di silsilah itu tidak ada Jaka Sangkrib atau keluarganya. Mungkin itu hanya contoh saja, mungking saya salah paham. Tetapi, yang menarik adalah mas bilang datanya diambil dari berbagai sumber. Memang di semua website yang ada info tentang Jaka Sangkrib/Honggowongso orangnya bilang "diambil dari berbagai sumber", tetapi sepertinya itu hanya copy/paste dari orang lain. Saya ingin memastikan keturunan Arung Binang I./Jaka Sangkrib/Honggowongso karena sering dibilang dia diperisteri empat kali, dan anak terakhirnya (yang dari Mas Ajeng Ragil) adalah Wongsodikromo. Di silsilah yang saya lampirkan ada keturunan Wongsodikromo juga, tetapi saya tidak tahu sumbernya. Bisa juga silsilah yang saya dapatkan itu salah. Mungkin Wongsodikromo itu tidak punya putra seperti di silsilah yang mas postingan di Rodovid. Semoga bisa menggabung infonya nanti. --Whodunit 09:03, 23 January 2018 (EET)

Ada link lain mas http://www.royalark.net/, tapi kalau saya sesuaikan dengan silsilah kami, kadang ada kerancuan. Yuk kita sesuaikan dengan sumber yang jelas, ya keluarga masing-masing. Kadang minimnya informasi tertulis yang dimiliki tiap keluarga menjadikan silsilah2 yang ada jadi tidak sempurna. Silsilah yang saya susun setahu saya terbuka untuk ditambahkan. Dan cara kerja saya, saya cari nama yang ingin saya input terlebih dahulu. Bila sudah ada, saya akan catat nomornya. Bisa jadi, silsilah orang yang saya catat tersebut sudah ada di rodovid. Terutama (yang saya alami) dari silsilah keluarga besar Solo. Kalau untuk Jogja (sejak HB I), referensi saya cukup kuat karena ada bukunya.

[edit] Bolang Family Tree

Good evening,

I am interested in the Bolang family tree. In particular Hamid Bolang.

Please reply to jmaplest@bigpond.net.au to discuss my interest.

Yours sincerely.

Julie

Dear Julie,

My data from Bolang family are very limited. I haven't found the origin of Bolang ancestry. Sorry for that. My data limited to Bolang families that lives in Ranomuut, South Sulawesi.

Hello Mr Menot,

I'm just checking that the link below is the area you are referring to in an effort to find out more about my father's history, I have never met him, I would like to look for any relatives I can. It seems there is only a Ranomuut in North Sulawesi.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ranomuut,+Tikala,+Manado+City,+North+Sulawesi,+Indonesia/@1.4805424,124.8321551,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x32870acdc5230a4f:0x47910fe0cabb92f0!8m2!3d1.4826423!4d124.8672449?hl=en

Kind regards,

Jocelyn jocelyntribe@gmail.com