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[edit] Hi

Hi Justin, Nice to see you around, as you can see many think are changing in RD.en, if you need informations or orther thinks I can give you some feedback (I beg your pardon for my poor english). I sow the detetion log you have just done, it is nice (I don't have the Sysop on RD.en) see you soon --Charles 02:39, 6 August 2015 (EEST)

[edit] Place names (again :-)

Hello Justin

I'm still studying disembiguation of english place names.

I still do have question about this work. Could you please read this post and give your opinion?

Thanks a lot! --Christophe Tesson - talk. 12:59, 22 October 2015 (EEST)

[edit] Back to reason

Hello !
Two days ago, CharlesF announced us that he wanted to leave. He wrote that he loved contributing but that he could not continue due to conflicts with Almoustine. He had been active since 2010 on Rodovid, adding records and correcting many errors on dynasties, and he had been doing that across language localizations (English, French, German, Dutch, Spanish, Russian), something that nobody else did. But he had problems with Almoustine about European dynasties of the early Middle Ages.
Almoustine added many records for figures of ancient times, but she seems to do that with the sole purpose of linking or merging people who have nothing to do with each other. When working on the ancestors of Childeric, the earliest King of the Franks, she did nothing but create a mess :

  • on the record of his possible grandfather "Clodius (Clovis) (Claffo) de Salii of Metz the Long-Hair Langobard", she gave him over the years 6 fathers (Théodemir 31320, Pharamond 105801, Valerius Adelphius 134074, Valerius Publicola 144095, Tiberius Julius Saromates Suomar Sunno Syunik Sanasar Valinak Siak 31286, Septimus Claudius Pharamondus Varasdates Mihran/Merovingan 31404) and 4 mothers (Blesinde 31411, Valentina 133735, Argota 107618, Flavia 359946)
  • in the previous generation, for "Chlodio de Cologne Septimus Claudius Pharamondus Varasdates Mihran/Merovingan" she gave him at least 4 fathers (Ghadam of Iberia 392862, Genebald 107698 and 360634, Tiberius Julius Saromates Suomar Sunno Syunik Sanasar Valinak Siak 31286, Son of Gabinius 569257), and 5 mothers (Argota 107618 et 385565, Sister of Marcomer of the Marcomanni 570963, Fritigil Queen of the Marcomanni 360699, Gallia Zenobia 596320, ? Mamikonia 944305)
  • in the previous generation, for [[Person:31286|"Sunno de Francie Tiberius Julius Saromates Suomar Sunno Syunik Sanasar Valinak Siak"] (deleted), she gave him 10 fathers (Priarios de Toxandrie 31285, Petronius Probinus 273314, Father of Sunno and Andok 570957, Tiberius Julius Synges Volturi 401193, Tiberius Julius Pharsanzes 401197, Tiberius Julius Teiranes 401188, Tiberius Julius Odennes Auden Sigisson Outham Senis 164077, Tiberius Julius Rhadamsades I 401175, Rostam Rhadamistus 87802, ? 943476) and 5 mothers (Clodia 273341, Zuara 171670, Fritigil Queen of the Marcomanni 360699, Daughter of Herod of Palmyra 596298, Zenobia 392919)

It's simply insane.
But Almoustine calls that "research" and says that to collect these data "several persons … have risked their lives to research in areas where it was sometimes very dangerous".
Instead of bringing new contributors to Rodovid, she pushes serious members out. CharlesF wrote that because of these stupidities Rodovid is the object of sarcasm on the internet.
As for me, I am not a big contributor for Rodovid EN (I mainly created pages for places with my second account Dn-Gov), but I don't want to have everything ruined by some wacko.
On Rodovid like on Wikipedia, it is the role of sysops to dismiss another admin if he or she does a bad job. I think it's time : you and EvansKnight should ask Baya to cancel the admin rights of Almoustine.
What's your opinion? Dn Gov (d) 01:00, 21 June 2016 (EEST)

Sources This is a serious problem with this site and with the prospect of a site like this. I'd like CharlesF and Almoustine to talk on my talk page. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 16:48, 27 June 2016 (EEST)
Hi Justin,
Yes, I'm bored about this situation and you can see an example destroyed by Eric (DnGov) who is just a piece of sand in the ocean.
If you want to understand my issues with the Almoustine's "work" I will explain myself:
  • You know Wikipedia, right? you know how far pages are reliable! so my question is easy; How comes Almoustine is in total contradiction with Wikipedia about well known people (queen, king, etc.. ) whereas Wiki use establish sources? Meaning (and she says so!) she is better than all experts in a historical period and historian who contribute to Wikipedia and outside wikipeadia!
  • If you know the reliability of early ages sources (very bad due to political influx) and if we take these into account to be gentle; How come her work is still in contradiction? Because she tries to influx the historical record for a goal: make everybody defendant to Adam and Eve or other Political/religious goal that I don't want to know!
  • How come we have non historical sources and records in RD? e.g: King Arthur, who is a very well known fictional figure based maybe so on several real characters; based on the Almoustine "work" this person is real and is merged with the real characters used for this story!
  • How comes we have established rules on RD and we don't follow rules? so many infringement I'm wordless!
  • How comes a Sysop systematically and clearly violated rules without blam!
I'm simply bored to see my work and my genealogy use for religious or political point of view inflection pushing without my agreement and unaccordingly to the RD rules whereas noboby whant to here and to take actions! As I know Baya will never delete her access and here sysop right so I prefer to go away; Please ask details to Eric and Christophe, they are well aware and more patient than me until now!
Kind Regards, --Charles 15:46, 3 July 2016 (EEST)

[edit] Huh sorry…

Hi Justin

Forgive me, this conversation is not supposed to be mine.

We all do like Baya's idea : a collaborative, massively multilingual, genealogical site. Trees graphisms are so good!

This site goes right in several localization. Because I know RD.FR, I can speak about it: there are several sysops there in france, I met two of them. We disagree on lots of details, but we work together. Not so bad: there is more records in RD.FR than in RD.EN. This is an absolute anomaly: there are much more english speaking peoples around the world than french speaking peoples.

So, what is the difference between RD.FR and RD.EN? Oh just nothing: the power-users. The controversial sysop did edit almost 40% of the database (in english). This controversial sysop was caught red-handed several times, writing pure poetic fantasies, fakes, massive lies (what about DFA project?)

This is not a problem, why not fantasies? But, this "poetry" discourages new users. And discourages lots of power-users of RD: Morais, Bergsmit, ChorinJS, CharleF, Wikiacc etc.

There is something rotten in the state of RD.EN. Not so difficult to find what. So now let speak this Head Administrator. [sic] It will be zero words or 1562343 --Christophe Tesson - talk. 21:38, 4 July 2016 (EEST)

[edit] Happy new year !

Nice to see you around here ! --Christophe Tesson - talk. 16:10, 10 January 2018 (EET)

Merci. And you as well. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 05:20, 11 January 2018 (EET)
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